Web links related to the Back of the Book program of July 7, 2003
Okay, it's Sunday night 7/20/2003 20:33:44 and this page is done at last. I hope I can get things going on a better schedule in terms of these Web pages for the future. This one's taken forever to get together. I was just glad to be able to get a Web page published before this program at all! I've had a load of computer problems, as you can see below. I got to everything on this page, along with other topics on this program. There are three program's worth of E-mail below, so enjoy. on to the next one!
Here is the latest on the saga of Pacifica. The big meeting of the interim Pacifica National Board (iPNB) in June in New York City, was postponed until August. The iPNB had a telephone meeting in June to finally approve the bylaws for Pacifica. Once again the usual obstructionist factions stopped the bylaws from being approved, even though two thirds of the iPNB members present and voting voted in favor of them. However, iPNB Secretary Carol Spooner has filed a motion with the judge to declare the bylaws passed and get on with this process already!
The previous iPNB meeting was held March 7-9, in Los Angeles, CA, to discuss and possibly even pass the new bylaws for the Pacifica Foundation. Well, it was a big flop, the various schemers sank the bylaws again. I'll be updating this link one of these days.
WBAI now has a program schedule up on its Web site. The site has gotten many of the individual program pages together to provide links and such, so check it out. Here's a schedule made by a listener who has Web links for various programs and producers.
Our colleagues from Off the Hook now have both a RealAudio streaming web cast operating, and a new MP3 stream both of which were working at about 8:49 PM last night. The MP3 feed is now the preferred feed.
The Pacifica Foundation, which owns WBAI, has revamped its Web site and now has something called the Pacifica Lounge where you can post messages about Pacifica, WBAI and other Pacifica radio stations. This may be a good thing, and of course there are other, long term fora in which to participate.
WBAI also has a forum on its Web site now. You have to register to post messages, but anyone may read the messages.
So my computer problems continued during this past fortnight. On the last program I couldn't even get the Web page done because my video card died.
I was able to figure out what sort of new video card to get, since the old one isn't made anymore, and I bought a new card. This new video card is nice, but the drivers are screwing up my system a lot. Various programs are crashing from conflicts with the video drivers and other software associated with the new card that I haven't been able to resolve yet.
So I installed the new video card, but I was concerned about how much heat it was going to put out, especially during the heat wave. I felt in back of my computer, where the exhaust fans are, to see if the air coming out felt particularly hot. That's when i noticed that I was only feeling the exhaust from one of the three fans. After some more examination I found that two of my fans weren't doing anything!
The graphic above shows what I ended up doing after a lot of trial and error. I decided that the system would burn out quickly if I didn't cool it down, so I left the side of the machine off and placed an ordinary ten inch table fan up against it, actually partially inside of it.
As it turned out this cooled things off quite well, even during the heat wave, although I could only use the computer for a while before I had to turn it off to cool it down.
I got some new fans, but it turned out that the 12 volt sockets that the old fans had been attached to were dead! Luckily, there were two other 12 volt sockets on the motherboard and the fans are currently running off them. And if they go bad my computer is going to just fry.
I only got all of this done, including waiting for the fans to be delivered, on Saturday night. What a mess. I can only hope that even more stuff doesn't go wrong.
The Supreme Court has struck down the Texas sodomy law, and with it all other state sodomy laws.
On the program I went on about some history of all of this. The Gay Activists Alliance (GAA) had mounted a couple of challenges to the new York State sodomy laws, §130.38 of the New York State Penal Law, back in the '70s. I recall then GAA President David Thorstad personally challenging them by holding a press conference before and after having violated those laws. Eventually, the Lambda Legal Defense & Education Fund challenged §130.38 and the case went to the New York State Supreme Court. That court ruled the section unconstitutional and the Governor at the time didn't try to pursue it to the federal level. In 1986, of course, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of anti-gay sodomy laws, this decision reverses that one.
This decision is a big victory for gay/lesbian/bisexual and trans activists. Many of us have been aiming for this for decades. And of course the decision was handed down days before the major pride marches around the country. The cause of what we old, gay dinosaurs used to call “gay liberation” has been pushed forward, and there is now a new base to work from.
One pretty immediate result of the Supreme Court ruling was that they released a gay teenager from a long prison term that he only got because he was gay.
This is pretty miserable treatment. What idiots thought to treat a developmentally disabled kid this way? This case really is an example of the hatred visited upon powerless gay people of any age by some of those in positions of power.
Of course Pickles of the North and I marched in the annual New York City Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Trans Pride March on June 29th. I'm glad to report that Heritage of Pride, the group which runs these events, has decided to start calling it a “march” again. We always called it that when I was involved with setting these things up; we knew that it was an event opposed by various orders of anti-gay bigots.
And they even had the march order on line this year! Congratulations to Heritage of Pride for getting this right!
As promised, here is the E-mail we read on the air for the June 9 & 23, and July 7, programs. On the air I had to skip some on one program to read on the next program owing to time constraints. I'm not going to list there in the order in which they were read because I think that would be silly. I'm just going to list the E-mails here in the chronological order in which they were sent.
We start out with something from this guy Keith who apparently has a politically correct bug up his ass.
Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:55:50 -0400
the other night you bitched and moaned about the museum in baghdad. no question about the tragedy there. (unless it was just blood sugar out of wack) have you noted that the ministry of oil building was intact? “smart” bombs, indeed. geez, after thousands of bombs dropping all over the place, i suppose the iraqi folk could have been a bit more reasonable about looting and all of that. how much you wanna bet that most of those museum artifacts wind up here? i guess oil is just not enough. spoils of war/invasion/assault, whatever have you. . good thing those bombs are smart enough not to kill all the civilians. i mean, who'd be around to patronize the museum? or, did the heathens ever know it was there before all the bombing?. with all the libraries and public schools in nyc closing or falling apart, maybe we can send our kids to iraq; someplace where they might actually get the benefit of us tax dollars. good to see all priorities intact, mr. martin. peace, carats, and iraqi oil dressing,
As we all know now, of course, the curators of the museum were lying when they said that everything had been looted. They had stored most of the collections away before the war started. in fact one whole, bit part of their collection of ancient stuff had been hidden in a flooded sub-basement since the 1991 Gulf War! Maybe Keith would like to endorse the torture and murder of the Saddam Hussein regime?
Mon, 28 Apr 2003 02:03:52 -0400 (EDT)
Scabrous,meaning rough and/or gritty to the touch, would apply to sand.
And if the account of the chaplain is proved true, he should be drowned in his own baptismal pool, preferably on television.
Yes, the word “scabrous” can apply, but it just didn't work for me at that time in that context. oh well, words.
As usual, the army covered up for that filthy sky pilot we talked about on a previous program.
As we've pointed out recently, we have listeners all over the world now who are listening via the Internet. Given the late hour of the program it's possible that at some time we might have more listeners outside the listening area than inside it. It's on at a much more convenient time in other parts of the world.
Subject: Votre Programme
Tue, 29 Apr 2003 00:38:48 +0200 (CEST)
Cher M. R. Paul:
Allo. Je suis un auditeur en France (je viens de Chantilly, a vingt minutes de Paris, dans l’Oise). Votre programme est très intéressant. Je comprends l’anglais, mais ne peux pas le parler bien. Quelques mots que vous dites sont étrangers à moi.
Merci beaucoup de m’aider à parler anglais, et j’espère que vous avez beacoup d’années sur la radio.
What truly amazes me is that when I got this E-mail I was actually able to read it! I last took a class in French in high school 40 years ago! Of course it took me a while and when i tried to do it again on the air I stumbled a little bit, but the fact that I remembered any French at all amazed me.
Subject: April 28th Back of the Book show
Tue, 29 Apr 2003 00:32:09 -0400
Sorry to hear about your computer problems. Let me tell one of mine that is similar to yours.
But before I do, let me tell you of another free spyware/adware software package called “spybot”
I used to use the free version of ad-aware but stopped for the below reason. However, after listening to your show, I will have to download the free version and try it again. I also have been using spybot for a few months now and it seems to work good. Below is from BAI's PC Radio Show's website.
Ad-aware has been mentioned and recommended for removing Spyware many times. However, Joe withdrew his recommendation. The vendor, Lavasoft, has stopped updating the database of Spyware definitions and it is no longer current. A competing program Joe likes is Spybot Search-and-Destroy from PepiMK Software. It is free, but the author gladly accepts donations. For more see: http://security.kolla.de
Anyway, here is one of my tech support tales.
Running win 98se.
Recently I got cable internet (optimum online) and did a self-install. Got an Ethernet card and installed that, connected everything up and put their install cd in and it started up. Went thru an intro about how much better things were going to be and then it checked the pc to see if it met the system requirements. After than it went to check the network and the system hung - no mouse, no keyboard - nothing. Just about to hit the power switch when the system re-booted itself. Got to the point where the background for desktop appeared, but no icons yet and re-booted itself again. Let it do this once more before I hit the power switch during the post check. Tried a couple of things and found that it would start under safe-mode, but could not find the problem.
Called cable tech support and the person that I spoke to was “less than helpful” (don't want to upset the FCC). Would not let me talk to her supervisor, but she took my number and said that he would call me back. Believe it or not, he actually did in about 30 mins. He said that he only heard of this one other time and it was on a pc from the same company (dell). He had me restore the system (scanreg) and it worked. He said not to run the cd again and set up my account over the phone. Of course, since I just installed the Ethernet card, when I ran scanreg to restore it wiped out the registry entries for the card, but the software was still installed, so that did not work. However, when I tried to uninstall and reinstall the card it would not work so I had to call up the tech support the card and they told me what to do.
Not pertaining to this call or this company, but do you think that a tech (de)support person who says that they are A+ certified should know what the term “source code” means. I ran into one that when I mentioned source code to them it stunned them for a moment and they said that it did not know what it meant.
Anyway, I enjoy your show. Wish it was on every week.
Yes, my computer problems continue, as outlined above. I've been using Spybot, as Raymond suggested, and also Ad Aware, who have been updating their Web site of late.
As for tech support, a lot of folks are just thrust into those positions without really having any depth of knowledge about the area in which they're supposed to be helpful to people. lousy tech support is one of the main gripes computer users have with the companies that sell them everything from Internet access to the computer itself.
Subject: CBC Emergency Warning
Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:05:17 -0400
I enjoyed your show the other evening (sky pilots, etc...). It was the first time I happened to catch your show and hope to listen in again.
I was wondering if you knew where I could download a copy of that CBC Emergency Broadcast message.
I would appreciate it.
Unfortunately, I don't know of anywhere that has the CBC doomsday broadcast posted at this time. It's pretty sobering stuff though. I'm also not sure if it could be posted without violating a copyright, whereas on the radio we're reporting about it and it's okay to broadcast some of it. Yeah, the laws are bizarre these days.
Subject: something of interest
Tue, 6 May 2003 21:10:23 -0700 (PDT)
On tonight's Late Show with David Letterman (5/6/03), Dave just mentioned an interesting fact that is along the lines of something usually heard on Back of the Book.
On this day back in 1978 (5/6/78) at 12:34 AM and PM, the numbers of the time and date followed sequential order from numbers one thru eight. 12:34 on 5/6/78 went in order 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (12:34 - 5/6/78). Mr Letterman also pointed out that this occurrence will not happen again until the year 2078! Just thought this might be of interest to you.
Actually, that chronological incident only occurs at 12:34 PM on that date each century. Those of us who are sticklers insist that 12:34 AM is really just 00:34.
But I remember that in 1978! Yeah, this is one of those things which forms the fabric of my various obsessional observations. Unfortunately, although I'd made a note of it I'd forgotten to announce in advance when the Julian date achieved the very round number of 2,450,000.0 at 8:00 PM on October 8, 1995. Yeah, I screw up the big ones sometimes. Nobody else covered this momentous, er, moment either.
Next we have Fernando, who had been laying low after having posted some really nasty things about me on the Pacifica listener forums. He's as much a misogynist as ever. I played a certain instrumental version of a song while reading the following on the air.
Subject: A Question On Credit Histories!
Fri, 9 May 2003 21:51:46 -0700 (PDT)
Dear R.Paul Martin,
My name is Fernando. Hopefully you'll remember me, but I understand if you don't. I had been a regular listener to your radio broadcasts but this past September, I started teaching on Mondays and so I have been unable to stay up late. As summer approaches, I hope to start listening to a radio regularly again. I have written to you previously and I have also donated money to your show during your pledge drives so I believe I am entitled to your consideration. I am 33 years old.
Of all the changes in my life in the past year, R. the most devastating is that I broke up with my girlfriend. It was not a good break-up but i had to do it because she wouldn't go out with me and I was wasting my time. She is a tramp.
The bad part is that prior to my dumping her, I had agreed to co-sign a bank loan for her. Because her credit is so bad, the bank would not loan her money unless I agreed to be the primary co-signer. I agreed to this because I loved her and I am a good person. She promised she would make the payments.
Sometime after I dumped her miserable ass, I had my credit history checked and it turned out that she has been delinquint on this loan THREE times. She has shredded my credit history. I am looking bad here, R. I don't know why she would do this. I hoped we could part on cordial terms and I wished her well, but she would not go out with me and that showed me that she did not care about me. I think she is selfish and she really revealed herself by carelessly sabotaging my credit history. I am not petty but she is a tramp, R. Paul. She screwed me over. I hope she fails at everything in life and I wish her the absolute worst.
My question, R, is how can I repair my credit history and explain in the future that these black marks on my history are not my fault? She is a jerk, R.
I hope to listen to you more regularly throughout the summer.
Florham Park, New Jersey
Next we have some rapid fire E-mails from a cell phone user who's talking about something I did on the RIAA losing a court case.
Subject: rhat bhastards
Sun, 11 May 2003 23:02:57 -0700
Willy Nelson springs to mind as an artist used by the industry.
Subject: rhat bhastards
Sun, 11 May 2003 23:02:39 -0700
Willy Nelson springs to mind as an artist used by the industry. Also Janis Ian
Subject: folk song cd
Mon, 12 May 2003 00:33:55 -0700
R.Paul,greetings to you and Pickles of the North.Great idea to highlite artists ripped off by the industry. Please email po address4CD
Subject: tax relig.institutn
Fri, 16 May 2003 14:41:11 -0700
Hi,please read newsday pg A43 on taxing Relig.institutns& let me & them know what you think.(see 1st ammendmnt,U.S.Cnst)
Thu, 22 May 2003 14:10:23 -0700
War is a kind of welfare for the beneficiaries of the trust which ownes the banks that finance the debt of the govt that borrows 4 war.
Next we have someone who's referring to a story I read from the Associated Press wire about the fictional language Klingon being allowed for in some mental institutions.
Well, not quite, Dan. The media basher whom you link to apparently has a reading comprehension problem. He even quotes on his page that this is something that would be used if needed. By the way, Klingon is part of Star Trek, not Star Wars; it's spelled with a capital “K”, and even the media basher doesn't claim it's old. It certainly doesn't seem to qualify as an “urban legend,” given the truth behind it.
Yes, sometimes we'll play things for laughs on the program. A good laugh every now and again is healthy, no?
Yes, an interesting story, thanks. I still have a couple of old “copying pencils” around, which were sold as “indelible pencils” when I bought them many years ago.
Heather is referring to a topic I covered on a program some time back. Lots of listeners still remember that one.
Next we hear from Seth, who's a long time listener, contributor and correspondent.
Mon, 19 May 2003 16:54:56 EDT
Well, last night I heard Uncle Sidney's marathon pitching show.
If it turns out that the marathon extends to include your upcoming show, and you need a phone volunteer, please let me know.
Well, Uncle Sidney pitched but WBAI Management didn't have me pitching, as it turned out. One listener did send in $100 though! So my fulfillment rate for this marathon was 100%, and I didn't even pitch!
Seth has helped us out during the marathons for many years, and we thank him for that.
Fernando again. 'Nuff Said, the comic book show, was never the lead in to Back of the Book.
Subject: An Possible Addition To WBAI!
Thu, 22 May 2003 17:23:36 -0700 (PDT)
Dear R. Paul Martin,
I am a frequent listener to WBAI and in particular of your show, The Back Of The Book, which I mostly enjoy. I also listen to Grandpa Al Lewis, whom I do not enjoy. I first discovered WBAI years ago when I used to listen to “Nuff Said” on Sunday nights. “Nuff Said,” deservedly so, is no more, but it used to air just before your show and so that is how I discovered The Back Of The Book.
I also used to listen to the show your program alternates with, Carrier Wave. Carrier Wave had a segment called UFO Desk which dealt with UFO's. A personal friend of mine was one of the hosts of that show. Did you know him? I honestly don't care for the portion of Carrier Wave hosted by Sidney Smith as alot of his subject matter is offensive and I do not understand it. Once he talked about drugs.
Unfortunately, UFO Desk isn't on Carrier Wave anymore so I ignore Carrier Wave altogether. You might be aware of this already, but recently another radio program, Art Bell's Coast To Coast, which also dealt with UFO's was cancelled here in the New York radio market by the station that aired it. Did you know this? I really think that station (which I won't name!) was really gunning for Art Bell since it tried to cancel him before but we, the fans, forced them to put him back on. I think Art Bell would be a good addition to WBAI and it would fill the void left by UFO Desk. Art Bell has a huge fan base and WBAI would benefit from it. I think WBAI would make much more money if it could pledge during Art's show.
I know Art has received some bad press because of his frequent and totally unannounced absences, but he's had some bad breaks. His son was kidnapped and raped by a man and Art has a bad back. There have also been some nasty rumors going around about Art being involved in a sex scandal that he was trying to keep quiet, but that was perpetrated by Art's enemies. Recently, however, he's turned his show over to another host, George Noory. He will often have Whitley Streiber, the most famous alien adbuctee in the world, and Richard Hoagland, NASA expert, on as guests. I think Coast To Coast would be a more appropriate compliment to your show than that rambling discourse on drugs that is Carrier Wave.
I hope you will consider this and present the idea to the owner of the station. I will continue to listen to YOUR show regardless. I have also given money to your show in the past.
Florham Park, NJ
Uncle Sidney Smith does a very good radio program, which alternates with Back of the Book. As for UFO Desk I said what I had to say about that when it was still on the air.
Art Bell is not going to come to WBAI. I think everyone but Fernando can see that. I don't know that we'd want Art Bell around anyway, we've already filled our quota of conspiracy nuts and people spouting ridiculous claims.
Sat, 24 May 2003 17:07:07 GMT
hey R, are you pitching this Sunday? i heard there would be no pitching by overnight programs this week.
Nah, I didn't pitch this marathon.
This next missive contains a bunch of photographs, the provenance of which I am not totally certain about. I couldn't read this stuff on the air because of the FCC rules. Yeah, I know, some people just violate the FCC rules and say the hell with it. I'd rather not be the one who gets the station's license revoked, however.
Subject: You Named it What?
Mon, 12 May 2003 03:21:57 -0400
Dear R Paul. You sounded kind of down this morning on the air so I'm sending you some funny pictures to cheer you up. I've already scanned them with Norton Antivirus so they are clean. If you want to double check, save them to a folder and then scan them with your brand of antivirus. Enjoy. Remember that laughter is the best medicine.
[CLICK HERE to see the images Lazaro sent
. Warning: this page has 465 KB of images on it.
The Coney Island Parachute Jump got a bit of publicity right after we did something about it on a program. It's in an odd state right now, and I don't mean New York.
Subject: parachute tower
Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:06:02 EDT
Last Saturday ,May31st, the parachute tower seemed to be restored. I could see it from the Avenue P station of the F train at McDonald Avenue in Brooklyn.
And could you tell Sidney Smith he may have been thinking of the song Red Red Robin as sung by Al Jolson, not Bing Crosby as he thought or Perry Como as one of his callers thought. He wanted to play the song on his show but couldn't find it. Thanks.
Yes, they've gotten it back together, but it's still encased in some sort of shroud. We'll be doing more on this in the future.
Subject: transposing recordings
Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:56:59 -0400
Howdy. Been listening probably since the program started (I drove a cab nights for many years), but this is my first attempt at written communication (with you). I heard you discussing your dilemma regarding rerecording stuff (I wound up returning the very same double-cassette deck that F'd up on you) and wonder if a portable DAT recorder wouldn't be the answer to your problem. I'm not even sure if they make them anymore but remember hearing some live music on "BAI that had been surreptitiously recorded from a table in a club using a portable DAT machine and a $70 mic. The sound was amazing. I recall that the portable DAT recorders I'd see in store windows weren't much bigger than the mini-disc recorders I see now and certainly no bigger than a cassette walkman. A friend of mine had a DAT cassette deck and I also recall that the sound was indistinguishable from whatever the source material was. They work on the same principle as VCR tape, which is that you have rotating tape heads on either side spinning at incredible speed rather than tape rolling across a fixed head, resulting in an enormous amount of “room” for an analog signal to streach out and relax in. I'm sure if you can find one it would solve your problem.
On other subjects, much belated condolences on the death of your parents as well as your relatively new physical ailments. I think if it wasn't for the entry of “soured cucumbers” into your life you wouldn't be taking nearly as good care of yourself, so count your blessings such as they are, though having to change ones' much beloved diet and habits at this later stage of life is a stone drag.
I wish you well and thank you for your electronic company through all these too quickly passing years.
Thanks for the good wishes. Pickles of the North is definitely good for me.
I looked at Digital Audio Tape (DAT) and in my opinion it's just not robust enough over the long haul. Unless you're getting the heads and other mechanical parts adjusted after every 75 hours of use they start getting misaligned and you're liable to get a DAT tape mangled, which is the end of that tape and whatever was on it. DAT is also pretty expensive.
I'm looking at some other alternatives now. Hell, maybe I'll even get my old cassette recorder fixed. But I'd sure like to get real digital audio happening for the air.
Subject: AND A GOOD GODDAMNED MORNING TO R. PAUL AND PICKLES
Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:39:44 EDT
Dear R. Paul and Pickles, I hope that upon receipt of this e mail both of you are doing well emotionally financially and physically. I had to write to tell you that since 1999 when I literally stumbled accross back of the book aftercoming home soused from a cousins wedding! I was immediately hooked by your great voice self deprecating tone and sardonic wit, since then Ive listened to or taped all your shows. I, who am a cardiothorasic /vascular surgeon and professor of medicine at Columbias Albert Einstein school of medicine can honestly say Ive learned and laughed at things youve said many times over!!!!! One small grievance i have with you is that since the begining of the year youve infused your great program with a ritual detailing of your medical condition to the point of sometimes being ad infinitum ad nauseum. I say this with great respect and fraternal love for you , I mean no discourtesy and as a physician, I can understand where youre coming from ; as a long time lover of your brilliant program, however when you go on and on about your medical condition its really a turnoff for me and I assume other loyal listeners. Im not trying to dictate the content of your show <afterall Im not on the pacifica board> lol feel free to mention your maladies just dont make them the focal point of Back of the Book. Love your bumper music is there any way you could squeeze in Stuck in the Middle With You. Whatever happened to Fernado I really missed his Bushian sense of non humor and non intellect. Outside of you and a very small handful of hosts WBAI is getting more mediocre and authoritarian even as I type. Feel free to mention my name and e mail address if you decide to read it. All the best in nongodliness, Dr. Charles ___________
Oh, jeez, now my whining about my medical stuff is even annoying the doctors! I think I've lessened the emphasis on my new medical, um, situation over the past number of programs. But it was predictably going to be a big part of the program once I found that my life had changed because I have diabetes. Hell, I talk about my life, I'm certainly going to talk about how it's suddenly changing. This new medical stuff gets my attention, all right.
I wonder if my last few programs where I'm kvetching about my computer has gotten the other computer professionals pissed off at me too?
I try to avoid putting listeners' names and E-mail addresses on the Web site. You'll get spammed like mad if I do that. Also, do you really want the Office of Homeland Security to know that you're listening to a subversive like me? Egad!
As for Fernando, you can see that he's back.
There are a lot of issues that are considered hazardous to talk about on the air at WBAI. But there is an Internet list called “Free Pacifica!” which you can subscribe to, and these issues are discussed there. If you subscribe to it you will receive, via E-mail, all of the messages which are sent to that list. You will also be able to send messages to the list.
If you want to subscribe to the “Free Pacifica!” list just click on this link and follow the instructions, and you'll be subscribed. Could open your eyes a little bit.
The above list has occasionally produced a high volume of E-mail because of the attention that these issues have drawn. If you would prefer to subscribe to a low volume list that only provides announcements of events related to these issues then subscribe to the FreePac mailing list.
Another list that's sprung up is the “NewPacifica” mailing list. This one is very lively and currently includes over 400 subscribers coast to coast. Being lively, of course, it sometimes also gets a bit nasty. All sorts of things are happening on this list. With that warning in mind, you can look at the NewPacifica list here, and you can join the list from that Web page too, although you'll have to deal with Yahoo! to do so.
There is also the more WBAI specific “Goodlight” Web based message board. This one has a great many people posting anonymously and there's also an ancillary board that's just totally out of hand.
The “Goodlight” Web based message board has expanded to cover all Pacifica stations.
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